Veronica: On this Sunday afternoon, it is very dark here during the Holy Hour. I am sure that it actually is commensurate with our feelings in relation to many of these things that are going on now in the world and in holy Church, things that are offending Jesus and Our Lady very much.

I realize that these offenses sometimes are committed through ignorance and false obedience. I would say not false obedience, but blind obedience. We now have reached the point in Heaven's separation of the sheep from the goats where we have to make a decision for ourselves.

We realize that Our Lady has now referred to as some within holy Church as "evil men of the cross." Now this is a terrible horror to realize that we have within holy Church forces of evil working now to destroy Jesus' Church.

Now as you can see, the world is converging upon the Church, entering upon the Church, Our Lady said. There are doctrines of devils now that have been allowed to seep in, and even Pope Paul himself said that the smoke of satan is cracking the walls—has entered upon the Church.

We have many reports now coming into our so-called Catholic newspapers, reports that are credited to Pope Paul. I can assure you Our Lady says that many of these reports are erroneous and a falsehood. And where can we find the truth? And what is truth? We repeat what Pilate said, "and what is truth?" Well, we have the truth. Jesus gave us the truth in the foundation of our Faith when He established His Church through the Apostles. The Gospels in our Bible have already given the way for the establishment of Jesus' Church. Of course, in our so-called modern day and world, man on his own has taken it upon himself to change these Gospels, to change the wording to suit himself.

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The Apostles, in the Gospel, have given the plan that Jesus gave to them for the establishment of His Church, and the rules.

MIXED MARRIAGES

Now in approaching one subject, mixed marriages in the Church, the Bible has often repeated itself in saying "do not become unevenly yoked." I understand from an article in the Catholic newspaper—the Register, I believe it is—a reverend Father conducts a question and answer section. And I was most shocked today to see, among other things—this is not unusual in our so-called Catholic newspapers—to see that indirectly evil and things that are wrong in the eyes of God—not the eyes of man, because sin has become a way of life with man, but in the eyes of God—wrongs are being sanctioned among men, and these men are in the Church as rulers and leaders.

Now in reference to mixed marriages--

[Another loud jet passes over making it difficult to clearly record; Veronica stops talking until it passes then continues.]

(There is so much disturbance of the airplanes today, I'm certain that satan has a hand in this to try to stop the message.)

I understand that in 1966, the laws were changed, the rules were changed again to suit man. According to the Reverend Father Sheedy, in his question and answer column of the Register—I believe it's the Register; I don't want to mislead you, I want to give you the exact—The Catholic Register—I want to give the exact newspaper so it can get the credit. No, the Visitor, not the Register. The Catholic Visitor.¹ According to Father Sheedy, mixed marriages are, I would say, being condoned because if you are married by a minister outside of the Roman Catholic Church, you are no longer excommunicated. And Father Sheedy says that this excommunication was abolished in 1966. He states that on March 18, 1966, the excommunication incurred according to Canon 2319, par. 1, N.1, by those who marry before a non-Catholic minister is now abolished. And he states further that the effects of this abolition are retroactive.

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Now I would like to know, in my own human reasoning, where do we draw the line between what is right and what is wrong? Many of our Catholics have gone to their graves believing in their hearts that they would be condemned to long terms in purgatory or hell for having married outside of the Church.

Now also, if a person is no longer excommunicated, does this mean then that he can receive the Sacraments while in sin? And I say, for Our Lady, that when one marries outside of the Roman Catholic Church, are you questioning the role of the Roman Catholic Church as being the one, true Church of Jesus Christ? You are, if you condone these marriages and allow them to receive the Sacraments while in sin. You are not a true Roman Catholic priest or layman!

There is a sad fact now in the world today that Our Lady said sin has become a way of life. Now I receive many letters in the mail from separated children of God, those who have been away from the Sacraments because of marriages outside of the Church, and they ask me what attitude, what can they do? What can I advise you to do but to do what is right? The salvation of your soul and the guidance of your family, your children—that is the major road that you have to walk.

PRICE FOR HEAVEN

Now have we forgotten the value of penance? Do we not know that there is a price to getting into Heaven? You have to earn it. You have to merit it. There is an erroneous idea prevalent among our Catholics now in the world that man can sin and just because Jesus died upon the cross for us we'll all be forgiven. That is not true. You have to merit Heaven!

Now if you are a woman or man who has entered into a marriage outside of the Church, a pre--or be a man or a woman who has married in the Roman Catholic Church and then obtained a legal divorce, a civil divorce, I can only tell you the truth as given by Our Lady that you must now make your way back! It will be a hard way back, but sin makes the road always difficult. You have to now either live with your present spouse in a celibate life for the glory of God and the salvation of your soul. Which is more important to you, to live your short life upon earth in your sensual pleasures, in your worship of your human nature and mankind, or is it important enough to you that when you die you will have a life to live eternally and it--will it be with Jesus in Heaven? Or are you going to give it all up for a short life on earth and enter purgatory for years of suffering, or even hell and eternal damnation?

Oh, I realize in the world today that satan says and tries to make you believe that there is no hell. And satan now is speaking through some of our own clergy, as well as the lay people. Isn't it a fact that if satan can try to erase from your mind that he exists, then you will no longer fear his rule over mankind? If you can laugh him off as being a myth and a story, then won't you make sin a way of life, and won't it be easier to sin thinking that you will not be punished? And I say to you, for Our Lady and Jesus, you will be punished if you do not mend your ways and come back to God.

GIVE EXAMPLE

Women who are married outside of the Church—I say women because women hold the major part in a Catholic marriage—you will have to either separate yourselves from your husband, or you will have to live a celibate life! I realize, in your letters that come to me, that this does not set well with your husband, but you must realize that his salvation is also in your hands, in your power. You must give him an example, even though it hurts, even though he threatens to leave you, even though he may even sin more. It is not that you make him sin by refusing to condone the first sin—no! You must pray and gain the strength to show him this example so that he will understand that his temporal life, his earth life, is not important; it's what Jesus thinks of his actions, and how Jesus will judge his actions when he comes over the veil.

I know from the letters that there are marriages that, like snowballs, have multiplied themselves where a wife has obtained a civil divorce and remarried, and there are children involved with that union, for the lives of those children are important. I realize from the letters that many women and men will stay together for financial reasons. That is not enough! You cannot sell your souls! Even if you had to suffer and live with less, you must make a new life, a godly life, for your children and your--your homes.

Now I realize, from one letter I received recently that a woman has tried to walk the straight road, the narrow road that leads to Heaven. She realizes that she made a mistake in the past and has confronted her husband with this new God-given knowledge, this insight, this grace that she has received. Her husband did not understand, and in the meantime he has found companionship—sought companionship elsewhere. This, of course, is a human hurt to the heart of the woman, the wife involved. But this you must suffer, because if you obtained the initial divorce from a Catholic marriage, it is your penance because your cross will be heavy. Sin demands, commands amendment and penance.

SACRIFICE

In our world today, penance is being rejected, the need for sacrifice is being rejected. But I say to you, in Heaven, Our Lady states, there is a way of measuring the merit: you must earn Heaven, and if you do sin, you must be—I know there's an expression being used that I really don't like because it's abused, but let us say, "be born again."

Now by that I would say, with Our Lady's direction that means to accept God in His direction—His way, not the way we feel in our human natures we like. We're all human, and I realize and we're subject to errors and mistakes, but when God gives you the road and tells you what is right and wrong, you'd better try to stay on it. And don't think that you will all have that time later on to make amends, because too many people are now finding out to their great sorrow of heart that often we don't have that time to make the amends. We have to do it when we hear the word; we have to do it when God gives us the inspiration to make a change to better our lives in the eyes of God.

So I say to all who have married outside of the Church: return to the way. And for all who are now in a dilemma of trying to find out how to, let's say, un-mix a very mixed up situation, understand that it's a very simple way that Jesus has given you. And you cannot be happy—I don't think I have received one letter from a person who has said that they are happy in a situation that is sinful. And God has told you that if you are married in the Roman Catholic Church before a legally-ordained Roman Catholic priest, you are married for life. And what God has joined together, let no man put asunder. It is not an easy road, and the closer you get to God the more satan is going to fight you.

NO UTOPIA

Remember, the trouble with our world today is man is trying to create a utopia for himself, a place without suffering, a place with a supreme joy and happiness. I assure you, you will never find it upon this earth, and in your human role in your lifetime. No, there is only supreme joy and happiness when you go over the veil into the next world.

You know, they say that many marriages are made in Heaven, but I assure you there are many marriages that are being made from hell. Please, use your common, God-given sense. You know what is right and you know what is wrong. Don't rationalize sin. If you are married in the Roman Catholic Church and you leave it and marry another, you're living in adultery, and adultery means death to your soul. And if your soul dies, then you have no life to look forward to when you pass from this earth.

Pray, pray always. Remember the Rosary. Many times women especially, who seem to be the emotional end of a marriage, those that are governed more by emotions than their heads—I say when you feel that terrible quandary, that soreness of heart that I hear of so many times in letters, take--go into your room. Shut the door and pray. You don't have to say the complete Rosary; I assure you if you say three Hail Marys and an Our Father, a Glory be, and ask in your own human way for God to guide you back onto the path that He wants, you will be helped. Don't give up prayer, and above all, don't give up and condemn yourself to punishment after death.