The Message of Our Lady and Our Lord to Veronica of the Cross

"You will not bring these souls [separated brethren] back to My Son's House by changing to meet their standards. Man must change to meet the standards of his God!"

December 6, 1974

In honor of the Immaculate Conception

[The area usually occupied by Veronica and those attending the vigil had been fenced off. As a result, instead of being in her usual place near the flagpole, Veronica was on the pavement in front of the old St. Robert Bellarmine Church, which was now on her left.]

Veronica--The sky is becoming very lighted, and there are thousands of stars. They're twinkling in the sky. Now the sky is becoming very bright about the trees, and the edges of the trees are turning a very light blue.

Oh, Our Lady--oh, Our Lady is coming forward, but coming in the same direction; Our Lady is coming sideways. And behind Her is Michael, and about--oh, I can count them: about ten or eleven more angels. From their clothes, their dresses, I know they're angels. Now they're all coming forward. They don't walk; they're floating. Oh!

The grounds are in different colors, the most beautiful colors of yellows and blues and green. Oh, they're such beautiful colors! I can't describe them. There are no words that could describe the colors.

Now the angels that are standing over to the right . . . Our Lady now is turning and facing us. Oh, how awkward it seems, to be faced in this direction! Now Our Lady is smiling.

Our Lady--"My child, there is no inconvenience. You must understand that My basilica will also cover the ground that you are now upon. Therefore, My child, you are not outside My Shrine.

"I know, My child, that this has all given you a great puzzlement, but you will go as the Father directs. He has a plan for bringing about the building of this Shrine.

"My basilica, My child, will be built on a firm foundation of faith. Tradition cannot be placed aside from faith. Together they are the foundation.

"We watched the evil that advanced upon Our children. It is with great consternation that the Father observed the entrance of the evil one into your schools. There is great darkness in the heart of many of Our clergy. There is great darkness in the heart of many of Our children. It is like, My child, a contagious disease spreading so fast--darkness of the spirit.

"Won't you, My child, weep with Me and join Me in this great sorrow? Accept the heavy cross the Father allows you to carry.

"I cry also, My child, when I watch the desecration of My Son's Body. This desecration is being promoted by many who have been given the outstanding honor of representing My Son in His houses throughout the world, the churches.


"O My children, how often have I cried to you, to warn you of a coming great Chastisement! The balance has not moved; it lies heavily to the left. Already in the holy city of Rome, there is a plan now developing to replace Our beloved Vicar. Pray, pray much that he does not be removed, for the man of dark secrets is waiting to enter upon the Seat of Peter."

Veronica--Now Our Lady is coming over. She's floating; it's as though the air seems to carry Her right over towards us. Now Our Lady is over by the tree. She's looking down. Oh, and Our Lady is extending Her Rosary. She has the most beautiful Rosary. Our Lady's Rosary is white, but the Our Fathers are golden--the most beautiful Rosary!

Our Lady--"My child, you will listen carefully and repeat what I have to say.


"Children of the world, know the plan of satan among you. He cannot work without using the body of a human. Loosed upon your world now are a legion of demons from hell. They seek to bring about the full capitulation of mankind and the reign of the man of sin.

"Your world is fast heading for a major catastrophe of war. This war will enter upon the life of every man, woman, and child.

"We have wandered throughout your world looking for a House that retains a small semblance of holiness. There are few, My children! It is sad to say that the faith is flickering and the candles are dimming. Will My Son find even the smallest light of faith left when He enters once more upon the world?

"The spirit of wickedness has entered upon the high places. Those in authority with the greatest power to bring about the fall of mankind are using this power.


"The idol being used in your world to bring about its destruction has a foundation based on worldly gains, the idol being money. For coins will many sell their souls!

"You will accept your trials, My child, without complaint. You must understand, My child, that when you live in the spirit those who are of the world will reject you. When you have chosen the road of the spirit you must place an armor of strength against the mockery of the world. The opinion of mankind must not slow your work, My child.

"Man, even man in My Son's House, Church, has found the way to rationalize his sin. There is no rationalization, My children, for sin! For sin will bring about the death of your soul. Your soul is immortal, but when I speak of the death of your soul, I mean its fall to satan and its banishment into the eternal fires of hell.


"Many questions arise, My child, about My Son's House. There is only one true foundation. That is the House of My Son with Peter as the first ruler and head, and now your Vicar, Paul VI. All others have protested against the law and rule and broken away. They must be returned to the fold. However, My children, you are proceeding along a path of delusion. You will not bring these souls back to My Son's House by changing to meet their standards. Man must change to meet the standards of his God!

"The words of My Son are timeless. They cannot be called outdated. There is no reason to change. The Father never changes the rule. There is, My child, no easy road to the Kingdom. It is a straight but narrow road. Should you wander from this onto the wide road, you will find the road back very difficult.

"There is in My Son's House a complete casting aside of the knowledge of the supernatural. Know, My children, that it is not a myth or fallacy, the existence of Lucifer and his agents. They are loosed now in full force. You are living in the days, the latter days, as written for you by John. You will read the writings of John, his Revelations, and you will not be in darkness. You will recognize the signs of your time. Your world will be baptized by a great fire. The Ball of Redemption will pass through your world, and many will die in the great flame of this Ball of Redemption.

"As has been promised to you by My Son, you will receive a great majestic Warning from the heavens. This will prepare you to either improve and strengthen your spirit, or you will become more hardened and farther from the light. Believe what you see and learn by it.

"Many manifestations, My child, will be given for the edification of mankind. My Son, in the Father, has chosen this manner to go throughout your world and find many seers to bring the message of your salvation. These seers, My child, have met with much persecution and rejection. It is only because the world rejects the Message from Heaven, for you bring the message of the spirit.

"Your world, your country is in a cesspool of immorality! Your children--unless you parents will accept your role as parents and bring your children with discipline back to My Son, there will be much gnashing of teeth and weeping, but too late, too late, My children!


"Parents, awaken from your sleep! Look into the lives of your children! What are they doing for their recreation? Where are they going when they leave your homes? And what are they learning in their schools? Filth, rot, abominations, and soul destroyers!

"Teachers--teachers of lay life, clergy teachers--shall you stand before My Son and say that your teaching has been pure in His sight? No! I say unto you, He shall gather you up, you straying shepherds, and cast you into the fires! Many mitres will fall into the abyss. Pray, My children; pray for your clergy! The greatest attack from the agents of the prince of darkness will come to your clergy.

"Pray, My children, a constant vigilance of prayer. Have mercy upon your brothers and sisters. We ask you not to judge each other, but to pray. We do not condone a wrong. We speak out to correct a wrong, but we do not judge. The Father is always the final judge. Speak once, My child, and if not hastened, speak no more but keep it in your heart that it may not be his decision.

"Obedience, My child, obedience--how sad that the true meaning has met with distortion. Satan has used the rule of obedience to bring about the destruction of souls. There is, My child, only one majesty Who commands your obedience. This is the Father--the Father, the most high God in Heaven, the Kingdom of light. You must not honor man before your God. You must not sell your soul to man! For you, therefore, are selling your soul to the devil.

"There is about you, My children, a world unseen to your human eyes. These creatures of the darkness never sleep. Beside you, to protect you, are the angels of light from Heaven. How few call to their guardians! At the moment of conception, the spirit of life is breathed into the body--at the moment of conception! At the moment of emergence from the mother's womb, a guardian of light is given to the born child.

"We are saddened to know that you will place in your government one who has the power to continue the slaughter of the Holy Innocents. Woe to your country and woe unto man! For abortion is murder, and murder means death. All, My child, who have any measure in the slaughter of the unborn and do this of conscience and free will, will be condemned eternally to the abyss.

"Every means shall be used to promote the slaughter of the aged and the unborn.

"Sin, My child--"

Veronica--Now Our Lady, Our Lady is coming down closer on the left side of the tree. She looks very, very unhappy. And now Our Lady is taking the cloak that's around Her head and passing it across Her face. She's crying.


Our Lady--"Sin, My child, has become a way of life. Whatever shall become of the children, the little ones?

"It is for this reason, My child, that the Father plans to send a plague upon the world. Many young will die. It is in this manner that many young will be saved. Pray, My child, much, for many parents will cry bitter tears.

"No, My child, do not feel sadness of heart, for you will understand that the age in which they will be taken will leave no reason to doubt that they entered with the angels.

"You see, My child, it will be a great battle against the forces of evil to pray, for satan knows that with prayer the souls will return to My Son. If he can stop the prayers, My child, he can regain Our beloved children, casting them into the abyss.

"The struggle has been from the beginning of time, My child. The struggle for souls will continue until My Son arrives. The Mystical Body upon earth will go through great tortures as of a woman in labor. I repeat Myself, the numbers saved will be counted in the few.

"You must keep your sacramentals upon your body. Your body is the temple for your spirit. Many sacramentals have been given to you through time.

"When man has fallen, he will have been given every opportunity to save himself. And when he falls, he will have made his own decision.

"Do not discount My warnings, My child, of the miracles of hell which gather about the grounds. The transports of hell are ever present. The world has chosen to call them flying saucers. Know, they are transports of hell.


"See, My child, the power of Heaven."

Veronica--Oh! Oh, I see--Our Lady is placing out Her hand, and I see a light coming down onto the grounds here. And oh, my goodness! People are just floating right up, oh, as though they absolutely had no weight! They're floating up, up, up, until now there must be twenty or thirty people standing next to Our Lady. Oh! And now Our Lady is placing Her hand down and they are coming down, floating down again.

Our Lady--"You are watching, My child, one of the maneuvers My Son will use when He arrives. No, not this evening, My child--when He comes to bring peace to your world.

"Oh, yes, My child, when My Son comes He will come because it would be of great necessity to save mankind. No flesh will remain unless He comes, so great will be the strife upon earth."

Veronica--Now Our Lady is extending Her Rosary, Her beautiful white Rosary with the golden Our Fathers, out in front of Her, like this. And She's making the sign of the cross: In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

Our Lady--"My child, you will now continue with the prayers of atonement."


Veronica--Please kneel. Our Lady now is coming down from the tree. She's over on the left side of the tree. And now Our Lady is coming down, and oh, has to maneuver between the trees.

Our Lady is smiling.

Our Lady--"It is a little awkward, My child, to station Myself when I have been accustomed to seeing you in the other direction."

Veronica--Now behind Our Lady there's a--oh, there's a brilliant light. It is almost like a star that's opening up, and--oh! Oh, it's beautiful! Now oh, I see--oh, I can see Jesus is coming forward now. Oh, the light is so brilliant I can barely look at it. It's so brilliant that it's like a mass of diamonds sparkling. Oh, it's beautiful!

Now Jesus is coming forward. He has on a cape; it's a burgundy color, a deep red. And He has sandals, brown sandals on His feet, and a cream-colored gown with this piece of, like a--oh, not rope. I guess it's called a rope--Jesus is nodding yes--about His waist. And now He is placing His hand forward in front of Him, like this. Oh, that means to listen.

Jesus--"My child, the time has come to use the words with strength. You will repeat as a voice-box:


"I give you, the world, a fair and just warning from the most high God of Heaven and earth!

"To all of Our bishops and cardinals: awaken from your sleep! This warning is given so that you will have time to make amends. You are burrowing like rats into the foundation of My House! In your quest to improve, you are destroying My House! In your arrogance, you are traveling the road of the fallen angels! Modernization--you shall not change to please human nature! You will bring man to his God through discipline. The rules have been given to you, set down very clearly in the Book of life, the Bible. You will not change the words to suit your fallen nature! My word to you is this: Return My House to a state of holiness! Discipline your fallen human nature. Return to the rule! A House in darkness will shut its doors. The filth must be cleansed!"

Veronica--Now Jesus is coming forward, and He's placing His hand above His head and He's pointing out into the sky.

Jesus--"Look, My child, look what is approaching your earth!"

Veronica--Oh, I see this huge ball. I've seen it many times, but it's always frightening. Oh, my goodness! Oh, it's an absolute ball of fire! Because it's traveling so fast, it's shooting out this fire from behind it. It's very, very big! Oh, it's like an oven of fire. The color is absolutely hot!

Now it's getting dark, and my eyes don't burn anymore from looking at the heat and feeling the heat.

Jesus--"Yes, My child, it is not a pretty sight. Flesh will dry up and blow off the bones as if it had never been! Many eyes will see and still not believe, so weak is the faith upon earth! Prepare yourselves and set your house in order!

"All will be judged according to what lies in his heart. No man is hidden from his God. Faith--what has happened to you? My representatives, you have given yourselves to the pleasures of the flesh and the world and the devil. Discipline! Starve your bodies of the demons which you have entered upon yourselves by your careless attitude, by your permissiveness, and by your lack of discipline in My House, allowing My sheep to wander and be lost to Us!

"Your teaching--there is much to be changed. Return the spirit of truth, the aura of holiness within My House now, or you will be judged among the least!"

Veronica--Now Jesus is moving over. He's going across towards the tree on the right side, and He's looking down now. It's awfully frightening. And now behind Him, oh, is Michael.

Michael is coming down now. He's holding the scale, the large golden balance, in his hand, in his right hand, and he has the sword in his left hand. Now Jesus is raising His hand and pointing to the balance.

Jesus--"My child, your world is imbalanced. The souls of mankind are imbalanced. The Chastisement is heading for your world. Awaken from your slumber! The sands of time are running fast. Will you be ready?

"Though the world of fallen man and his nature seeks to still the voice of My Mother, this he will not succeed in. The words, the Message of Heaven, shall go throughout the world, and then shall come the end.


"It is not a message of fear that I give you, or My Mother brings to you. It is a message of hope in your world of desolation. Stand fast in your Faith! Retire from your world which is now given to satan. Guard your children well, and We will meet and rejoice in the battle that will be won with the help of My Mother.

"I bless you, My children, and bestow upon you the graces necessary for your salvation and the salvation of the children's souls."

Veronica--Now Jesus is placing His hand out, like this, in front of Him, and He's making the sign of the cross: In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

Now Our Lady is behind Jesus, and She's coming forward now. And Jesus is going over--He's floating over to the left side, near the tree, and He's coming down a little closer to the grounds. Oh, He's very close down now. And now He's bending over and placing His hand out, like this: In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

Now Our Lady and Jesus are rising up. Oh, They're going up very slowly. They just seem to have no weight--just float up, up, up. Now They're just above us. And now Jesus is bending over.

Jesus--"My child, you must hasten to send the message throughout the world. Time, time is running out. Do not be concerned. Many arms will be sent to you to help you--peoples of great faith, strength, and courage. You will also proceed with the establishment of the refuge for the good sisters."

Veronica--In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.

Oh, Jesus is referring to the establishment of the Order of Our Lady of the Roses, the Carmel of Our Lady of the Roses. It will consist of a large plot of land with a cloister for nuns who will live a life of meditation and contemplation, away from the world. They will continue the balance of prayers needed for the recovery of souls, of both the lay and the dedicated souls--the priests, the clergy.

In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.

Jesus--"You will continue now, My child, with your prayers of atonement."